developmental psychology
What does developmental history reveal that's hard to see any other way?: Developmentalists
The convergence In 1948, forty-eight nations voted for the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The document was drafted primarily by people whose governments had, within living memory, denied those rights to most of the human race.... What is enlightenment?: Developmentalists
Same path In 1977, Ken Wilber published The Spectrum of Consciousness and made everyone uncomfortable. He took the contemplative traditions seriously as developmental maps — not metaphors, not artifacts, but sequences with directionality that could be tested against the ego... What is enlightenment?: The Story
Sit down, shut up, keep sitting In 1966, a Zen master named Shunryu Suzuki arrived in San Francisco and opened a meditation center in a former synagogue. He told his students to sit still, face a wall, and count their breaths. Some had come from acid trips.... Why is family structure weakening?: Developmentalists
The container problem We see the same couple over and over. Married in their mid-twenties, genuinely in love. By thirty-five, one has changed. Not betrayed — changed.... How free can you be inside a system designed for compliance?: Integralists
The curfew A fourteen-year-old is certain the curfew is oppression. She can articulate the injustice with perfect clarity. She is also wrong, in a way she will not understand for another decade, when she is the parent setting the curfew and discovering that the fear she dismissed... The Open Question March 18: How do we reason about the future given AI? I find this topic extremely perplexing, and endlessly fascinating.
- What are we raising our kids to be ready for? What skills don't matter anymore that we used to hold sacred, and what do we need to emphasize?
- Will we have universities?
- Where to invest time/energy?
- Where to invest money? Will money even matter?
- Purpose and meaning, etc...
especially when I factor in stuff like Nate Soares talking about If Anyone Builds It Everyone Dies, Rob Miles and Jeffrey Ladish communicating the wild risks involved in AI acceleration, there's almost too much to contemplate at once, and I'd love y'all's help.
Some convos already on UpTrust that might be relevant:
- Blake on AI collaboration
- Tommy on TikTok brain with AI
- Renee on Older people adopting AI
- Leif on Digital Mystics
- Alex on AI & the Second Coming of Christ
- Dave on an AI Safety introduction he likes
#openquestion
From a developmental perspective onr of the most interesting questions is how early and how safely can children be taught to not believe content. Without losing sincere engagement, we also need to acknowledge that images, videos,.voices, identities of people sending messages,... Sci fi futures, developmental futures
A future I love includes some of these; what do you guys see? Everyone is wealthy AF. Used to be only the uber-wealthy had private drivers, now upper-middle income city dwellers all have a private driver on demand (uber/lyft).... On Aspiration. In a recent Relateful Flow session, I said that I was aspiring toward something and that, to me, aspiration is an active principle. My comment was met with strong disagreement from a person who said that aspiration is passive and only concrete action of a physical kind, actually "doing" something, is active. I was a bit shocked and then realized that I might be in the minority on this subject. To me, "aspiring" is actively signaling Life/God that I am now ready and willing to receive the thing I have been saying I wanted. It is an energetic "yes"! Other more physically tangible actions may follow, but aspiration is first , especially in things which have always seemed to be beyond my grasp.
However, I understand what the person was pointing to. There is a world where action is physical; aspiring may be useful in some way, but it is a passive practice.
Would love others' thoughts and experience with this.
GPT5's quick take (prompt: how might 'aspiration' appear at different levels in a developmental maturity model, particularly regarding active/passive dynamics)?... Can someone actually have any Teal if they score 0% Orange, Amber, Red, and Magenta? Going through the scores of the Better Political Conversations quiz is fascinating. (reference: https://www.guidedtrack.com/programs/we0q1pq/run)
Now, this very well could have been someone running an experiment to test the scoring, or to try to get a sense of a friend or family member, but they did give a name where a lot of people leave that blank.
Their scores are:
Teal 55%
Green 45%
Orange 0%
Amber 0%
Red 0%
Magenta 0%Is it at all possible that someone could select every single response at Orange, Amber, Red, and Magenta as
False, wrong, or just doesn’t make sense
and have any actual Teal?Also interesting, I got an email from someone who thinks of himself as primarily Orange, but was surprised that his quiz results came out 0% Orange. He referenced his Meyers-Briggs results as a reference in support. Utterly fascinated, I’ve asked him to let me know what correlation he sees between the Integral levels and Meyers-Briggs, and I’ve asked him what statements at Orange would have had his quiz results come out accurate for him.
Each time I make a significant edit in the content of the project I make a note of the change in the google sheet where I’m keeping track of scores. Here are the averages of the currently 75 scores:
Amber 26%
Green 25%
Teal 21%
Red 12%
Orange 11%
Magenta 5%One blatant pattern I’m seeing is that high Green scores ALWAYS pair with a high score in Amber, and that people who have that pairing always score exceedingly low in Red and quite low in Orange.
This is also almost universally the opinion of developmental theorists. There’s disagreement about how to relate it all, but the standard wilberian take is that there are a few lines of intelligence that develop relatively independently.... Hello! And a question on measuring the quality of a connection. Hi Uptrusters! Sara here, joining for the conversations (debates? connections? community?) and because I’ve been frothing to see the inside of this platform ever since Jordan told me about it 🤤.
Since I imagine the best way to say hello here is to start an interesting conversation, here’s something I’ve been noodling on lately.
Right now I’m doing a bunch of research on loneliness and social isolation (two different things, as it turns out!) to write an article on
How to make friends
for the publication Clearer Thinking, which i think does the best independent psychological research and tool development of anywhere I know. In case you want more context for this post, here is the draft of the first half of the article, posted on my Substack while I’m working on it. https://authenticrevolutionary.substack.com/p/how-to-make-friends-part-1-inner?r=34w9fThere are a few research questions that have come up for me as I do this, areas of study that I think could be more explored and would be exciting to look at if we ever have Ph.Ds or grant funding for our field. If this topic interests people lmk and I’ll post more of the questions.
Here’s one I’ve been thinking on. There are a number of studies that look at how social connectedness, whether strong or weak-tie, affects health and happiness.
However, the metrics they use to ASSESS social connectedness seem…maybe incomplete, to me? For instance, I was reading a study this week on how the quality of conversations affects happiness and a sense of connection (study available here, if you want to read the results: https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2019-62902-001.pdf)
The metrics they used to assess quality of connection were:
- Self-disclosure
- Depth of conversation (rated fromsuperficial
tosubstantive
)
- Liking of the other person
- Prior knowledge of the other personSo here’s my question. What other metrics, if any, do you think would be pertinent to assessing the quality of a connection?
I remember this result but I don’t remember where this comes from either. In my head this is a developmental insight, eg: orange aims for success (in order to get happiness) green aims for happiness (in order to get meaning) teal aims for meaning (in order to get… "more contact... Reproductive rights. I have a really hard time understanding why folks support stripping reproductive rights before we’ve tackled better support for children and families in the US.
From my perspective, the better we can support children, mothers, and families more broadly, the less we’ll actually have unplanned pregnancies.
It just seems wise to really take care of those that are alive right now and try to improve their lives.
yeah there’s a lot of correlations here, and my actual guess is that developmental level is the underlying causation. Like probably 85% of adoption comes from amber, 5% from red, and maybe 10% from green? Quality is such a tough thing to measure, but I get you.... Race and IQ. I recently got dinner at a hole-in-the-wall asian spot with a geneticist named Razib Khan. Over noodles, and with a concerned glance over his shoulder, he admitted that the science is clear: race is absolutely tied to IQ. Jews are the smartest. Pretty much everyone on the continent of Africa is at the bottom.
This fact alone is controversial, but we have to be able to talk about it, and here’s why:
I nodded, and asked:
How many generations does this take to change?
Razib:
As little as three generations. For example, the Egyptians used to be the smartest, but a century of inbreeding knocked them to the bottom. Incest drops IQ by 10 points in the first generation. After that the effect weakens.
This is huge. At first glance, the controversial statement seems like a slamdunk for racists the world over. But dig into the details, and you find out 3 generations is enough to change things—this means that race and IQ are not inherently linked as far as we know, they’re just linked in today’s world, because of today’s policies and systems.
Knowing this could actually help us target where we need to focus our interventions for the next three decades. Let’s get us all up!
to the extent you trust me (which is low when it comes to "greater than" symbols < >,” I think you can! Especially in the realms of metatheory, developmental psychology, philosophy, truth claims, epistemology, meditation, mystical traditions.... Racism through a developmental lens. unfinished draft…
note: I’m totally uninformed here…Red: Does this benefit me?
Amber: My race is simply better (or worse) than yours. We perpetuate it because that’s good.
Orange:
Racism
is a thing we transcend by being worldcentric and meritocratic; we perpetuate it by constantly looking at everything through the racism lens.Green: Systemic racism is everywhere (and at the root of many of our social problems); we transcend it by balancing the scales with education and programs to help the victims and stop the perpetrators; we perpetuate it by taking advantage of our privileges, ignoring it, and doing nothing.
Teal: Systemic racism is real, but it’s mostly an unconscious self-organizing system that’s perpetuated because of the incentives that keep things how they are. We transcend by owning our projection, and by setting up systems that reward non-racism for each level of development in the currency that level values.
Turquoise: We never transcend racism, it’s a construct we enact through conscious embracing and boundarying/channeling or we enact through ignorance.
All these are frames that enact world-experiences that overlap, and they’re all us; these frames keep us from being in awareness and seeing awareness as the stuff the frames are made of-which is the way out of the self-referential self refuting trap of this frame into unity of experience…
note: This doesnt mean everyone who’s using the surface language of
systemic racism
or whatever is actually at that level—for example there’s a red green alliance that usesGreen
language because it benefits them directly; there’s an amber-green alliance that uses green language to make their in-group good/better and make others wrong/bad.yeah i agree. i mentioned this on the other comment but i haven’t found chatgpt very good at understanding developmental psychology. Just like in the list above, I think it can do "5. Pluralistic," and kinda do "4....